Brief notes from the "Fishbowl" discussion
with the 2nd years (Now 3rd years)

• Workshops for APA, online research and writing: It would help to have these earlier and perhaps these could be available during lunchtimes
  
• Discrepancy between "group hug world" and the rigor of research and writing: let's hear more about the transition so we can get ready to do it and share the experience; I felt that I was on my own vs. with the group
  
• Start the process at Module 7 and get to it earlier:  for example, tips on creating a successful project (vs. a weak project = weak thesis); what to do to get to the thesis
  
• Start the process earlier with tips to do a successful project: what does a successful project look like;?  Knowing more about a successful project ahead of time (for example, learning how to renegotiate a project)
  
• Starting the process earlier, specifically to build in time for natural delays
  
• Personal factors - artificial schedule so it's okay
  
• Journal, journal, journal!
  
• Being able to finish in December keeps the learning fresh - and then you can get on with life
  
• This is not a 2-year program.  Do we do this earlier?  There's no time really, so we must extend...
  
• This is an adaptive challenge.  It's not a two year program.  The schedules are an objective hazard and I have to force my self to stick to it.
  
• I just barfed it out and the learnings just kept coming...   so there was a shift in focus, but I liked it; it flowed
  
• Knowing more about APA guidelines earlier would be helpful.
  
• Find a high-need project
  
• This is an adaptive, personal challenge vs. technical
  
• Start the proconsult earlier
  
• Get on the MTP talk ListServ

Pam's comments:  She was very intrigued by all this information.  Contract the MT manual to avoid adaptive challenge (I cannot remember what she meant by this - any ideas)?  She wants to enlist the second years (us) to help her with this.  Workshops are not doable because of budget constraints.